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| RUSSIAN YETI: THE KILLER LIVES, a 2-hour special airing Sunday, June 1 at nine PM ET/PT on the Discovery Channel |
Russian Yeti: The Killer Lives chronicles American explorer Mike Libecki every bit he investigates why nine college students hiked upward the icy slopes of the Ural Mountains inwards the view of Russian Federation but never made it out alive. The students' bodies were flora scattered across the campsite inwards 3 distinct groups, some partially naked together with with foreign injuries including crushed ribs, a fractured skull, together with i hiker mutilated with her eyes gouged out together with natural language removed.
Dr. Jeff Meldrum made himself available to utter with Bigfoot Lunch Club close the Discovery special. In role i of the interview nosotros utter over the deviation betwixt the Himalayan Yeti together with Russian Yeti. In the minute one-half of the interview (posted tomorrow) nosotros utter close the Definition of progress inwards Bigfoot Research.
The book inwards the sound above, but at to the lowest degree yous tin flaming listen our interview with Dr. Meldrum's interview unedited inwards full. below is a quick transcript.
GE: First off I precisely desire to state I’m a large fan of your Legend Meets Science, I intend that’s a staple inwards every cryptozoology library together with I also similar your Sasquatch Field Guide that yous own got out, that’s i of the best things since sliced breadstuff for bigfooters.
GE: First off I precisely desire to state I’m a large fan of your Legend Meets Science, I intend that’s a staple inwards every cryptozoology library together with I also similar your Sasquatch Field Guide that yous own got out, that’s i of the best things since sliced breadstuff for bigfooters.
JM: Well good, I appreciate that too.
GE: So I desire to larn a yoke things defined regarding the deviation betwixt bigfoot together with yeti. So these are, are these the same creatures adapted to dissimilar climates or are the differences to a greater extent than distinct?
JM: Well, i has to starting fourth dimension clarify what you’re referring to when yous utilization the term yeti, because inwards Asia for example, inwards Russian Federation the term is used quite generically for the Russian Wild Man together with that entity or entities may convey on to a greater extent than than i identity, inwards my opinion. There’s rattling interesting show suggests that there’s a brute much to a greater extent than human similar than what we, at to the lowest degree what I, attribute to the North American Sasquatch. This brute is described every bit existence man-sized but yet covered with pilus often with differentiated caput hair, ofttimes described every bit utilizing tools rock tools inwards fact non precisely opportunist brandishing sticks together with such. And Even interacts with the locals inwards a much dissimilar agency every bit to a greater extent than complex social construction larger groups of individuals, together with sometimes trying to interact trying to trade, fifty-fifty to communicate with the local inhabitant who precisely consider them to live on sort of backwards people that live on upward inwards the mountain. Their human foot prints from my perspectives are quite interesting inwards that they are much to a greater extent than human like, they own got an arch, that they are rattling wide rattling splayed, a human foot that advise a much to a greater extent than robust skeleton non precisely someone whose gone without shoes but much to a greater extent than robust skeleton, so inwards role of that footing of description together with human foot impress characteristics I would advise that this is a relict Neanderthal or an affiliated species maybe similar the Denisovans.
GE: Wow, thus this would live on totally dissimilar than the yeti that Sanderson had looked for or what Thom Slick had funded during his expeditions.
JM: Right, correct thus the yeti to us, to most Americans, if yous utilization the term yeti that invokes the notion of something inwards the Himalayas together with what show exists for a species inwards the Himalayas at to the lowest degree inwards the high valleys of the mount passes where the footprints own got historically been flora past times mountaineers together with attributed past times the sherpas to yeti. It appears to live on a brute that is much to a greater extent than ape like, i time to a greater extent than close adult man sized heavy stocky but the best footprint show nosotros own got suggests a human foot that has a divergent large toe inwards much to a greater extent than ape similar fashion than a hominid or human similar fashion. So at nowadays the film i time to a greater extent than gets a footling fleck to a greater extent than complicated or interesting because when Josh Gates the host of Destination Truth went upward into the Himalayas piece they were scouting close at some of the lower elevations some of the forests or the foothill they had reportedly had an encounter, heard something splash through the creek together with run out across a sandy gravel bar together with left a string of footprints which he made several casts of i was a rattling consummate human foot impress which he brought to the laboratory hither together with I had the run a jeopardy to await at together with I was able to immediately able to walk over to i of my drawers together with force out a Sasquatch runway that was almost identically to it.
GE: Wow
JM: One that came from the bluish mountains upward past times Walla Walla Washington. So at that spot is the possibility at that spot is also inwards the foothills of the Himalayas together with extending into some of the areas where this Neanderthal has been described, i of the hot spots if yous will, has been the Caucasus Mountains spanning betwixt the dark together with cascades season. It has been produced through the efforts of people similar Mary Jane Coffman a number of rattling goodness together with good documented examples of Neanderthal similar footprints or sub human or I should state archaic human footprint. But also inwards my recent trip to Russian Federation which was quite interesting I linked upward with an investigator past times the call of Dimitry (???) i of the most interesting aspects of that trip nosotros were next upward on the study of a long business of tracks that had been witness past times many people inwards the local hamlet together with these were 16” tracks that were i time to a greater extent than indistinguishable from Sasquatch tracks but quite dissimilar the footling yous know nine to eleven inch rattling human similar arched footprint that own got been to a greater extent than attributed to the to a greater extent than Neanderthal-style Russian Wild Man. So it’s non just, inwards fact I was happy to listen that yous actually liked the champaign guide I’m inwards the procedure of writing some other champaign guide that addresses this rattling issue; the notion that at that spot could live on multiple relic hominoids species, some to a greater extent than adult man similar the Russian Wild Man or some to a greater extent than ape similar the North American Sasquatch but which has patently the equivalence scattered across eastern together with southern Asia.
GE: Yeah, that would live on exciting to own got because I intend i of the things that non bigfooters notice actually compelling every bit yous own got noted earlier inwards your presentations, the the world was literally the Planet of the Apes for a footling while. We had multiple bipedal creatures walking on the the world sharing dissimilar geographies together with such.
JM: Exactly, together with that seems to own got been the dominion rather than the exception inwards the past times where at that spot were yous know every bit many every bit vi or 7 multiple species of hominid or hominoid depending on which taxonomic degree you’re looking at but things that own got or unopen allies to the branch that ultimately gave ascension to human modern human together with yous know that the thought that we’re the final hominid standing kinda flies inwards the confront of that dominion together with i has to inquire why would the introduce live on an exception.
GE: Right
JM: You know, yous tin flaming come upward up with arguments but quite literally those same arguments were used to fence for Homo erectus existence the alone hominid on the planet, when it existed. And yet of a abrupt nosotros knew that at that spot were even thus Homo habilis at that spot were Australopithecus robustus together with thus forth living correct amongst Homo erectus thus it’s a actually interesting form of plow events I intend the affair that actually turned the corner that was the pin indicate was the uncovering of the Homo floresiensis the hobbit. This showed that at that spot was a relic hominid maybe a belatedly australopithecine human if non an early on rattling early on adult man similar Homo habilis that persisted inwards the remote corners of SE Asia upward until precisely maybe a few hundred years agone if the local stories close for lawsuit the Ebu Gogo on the isle of Flores where this hominid of these fossil remains were discovered existed together with its fascinating thus if it changed the conversation yous know at nowadays at that spot were bones to dorsum upward the legends
GE: Right
JM: Diminutive hominoid on this isle that the natives were talking close inwards such a similar fashion every bit they arrive at hither inwards North America. You know? The history of the indigenous people are replete the histories replete with stories of wild men that inhabited the forest.
GE: I intend that if media is whatever indication, there’s a full general consensus that there’s something to bigfoot inquiry or there’s definitely a large involvement inwards it, is that the same inwards the academic public or is it the academic public catching up?
JM: Yes, I intend that their like shooting fish in a barrel catching upward inwards that they feel that their every bit at that spot develops a context for the thought for the notion that at that spot mightiness live on such things out at that spot inwards other words if at that spot is a bio-geographical paleontological context for these things every bit relic hominoids together with this is why I’ve been form of pushing this subject because every bit my collages laid out to admit the things similar the Hobbit are non the materials of scientific discipline fiction whatever longer but that they are actually inwards principal flow scientific discipline together with there’s a rational for why this is happening why this is occurring I intend their to a greater extent than opened upward to the possibility that good gee how arrive at yous fence that we’re the final hominid standing inwards the confront of thus much show that points to multiple relic hominoids around the globe,
You know together with its funny yous mentioned that Ivan Sanderson together with I experience guilty also if I don’t give credit where credit is due but I’m finding myself going total circles dorsum to his master copy thesis dorsum inwards the early on 60’s that where he identified at to the lowest degree 4 dissimilar types of he called them ABSN’s abominable snowmen but nosotros own got the sasquatch type, nosotros own got the Neanderthal type, nosotros own got the footling he called the proto-pigmy but what nosotros maybe would intend of every bit relic Australopithecines rattling early on adult man together with the ape similar type inwards the Himalayas together with thus yous know I don’t desire to I’m non i to necessarily lump everything together nor am I i to spit into also many dissimilar entities every bit some own got done inwards the recent past times but I intend that that’s a actually pretty goodness working model to laid out with I notice that there’s some differences, some of the show that he was willing to convey I would heighten some questions close together with restrict maybe the distribution of some of those to a greater extent than every bit at that spot relatedness to i some other but never the less that cardinal that’s taken inwards its wide brush strokes of multiple hominid species on the planet today precisely every bit Sanderson had suggested 50 years agone one-half a century agone is actually starting to convey some root.
GE: Well together with that’s actually interesting because your also i of the people that would advise that at that spot may non live on multiple species of bigfoot inwards North America.
JM: Right, Right.
GE: And
JM: Well I precisely don’t reckon the show for that at that spot yous know I’m ever hesitant to house a lot of significance on i outlier antidote that seems to live on at awe together with yous know that the thought that at that spot are yous know North American Apes inwards the feel that at that spot has been described past times for lawsuit past times Loren Coleman yous know if yous await at his champaign guide I hateful he has
GE: Right
JM: There’s what 6 or 8 dissimilar creatures living on the North American Content lone together with yous know I’ve gone dorsum together with reviewed the materials inwards the Mark Halls thesis close truthful giants together with tin flaming notice precisely quite honestly tin flaming notice nix substantive inwards whatever of that, its ever a missing specimen that yous know that the museum no longer lays claim to or some paper article describing a giant skeleton that there’s no document no farther documentation, no substantiation to, is ever precisely you know the materials the of Americana legend together with that has kept Barnum together with Bailey together with his ilk going for all this fourth dimension I precisely can’t notice anything to it or nor tin flaming I notice show of a pithecine type of a primate inwards North America based on a scuff grade inwards the sand together with an interpretation of an extremely grainy word impress photograph of a human foot impress cast inwards Florida. There precisely isn't plenty when yous compare that form of evidentiary basis to the massive trunk of information that is remarkably consistent despite the empty-headed pronouncements of archival skeptic inwards the cast of the human foot prints for lawsuit together with the remarkably consistent optic witness descriptions that where at that spot is whatever credibility to their run into to the witnesses themselves together with to their interpretation to their experience or their collaboration to their experience through human foot impress show together with such there’s precisely no comparing if at that spot were that meaning of a trunk of information to back upward whatever i of those other creatures thus at that spot would live on a leg to stand upward on at the introduce I don’t think
GE: Right together with I intend that’s why it’s meaning that when yous state that at that spot mightiness live on something to Sandersons mulitiple species together with thus inwards North America maybe not. So on sun June 1st Russian Yeti: The Killer Lives airs on the Discovery Channel, tin flaming yous tell us a footling fleck close your involvement inwards that demonstrate is?
JM: Right, yeah good it was primarily from my pike of experience together with expertise yous know that the antidote or the incident described that did the footing for that title, which I had nix to arrive at with I’ll give a disclaimer correct now, is an intriguing i together with I was curious to regain that at that spot is quite a cult of a next of this exceptional flush together with the diverse theories to what mightiness own got accounted for the consequence together with yous know the link to the Russian Yeti or Wild Man is a tenuous i at best but it is an intriguing i together with yous know it does heighten this interrogation of arrive at these creatures pose whatever threat to modern humans when they company out away from civilisation into the wilderness yous know there’s ever the questions that’s raised close sasquatch together with its deportment whether it is a threat whether it is antagonistic or predatory on people together with a lot of give-and-take has been has ensued around that we own got anecdotal show some of the classic stories similar that Bauman incident shared with Teddy Roosevelt.
that's the destination of Part 1. Stay tuned tomorrow for part 2 of the interview, when Dr. Jeff Meldrum discusses the two-hour special inwards to a greater extent than details together with thus discusses how nosotros define progress inwards Bigfoot research.
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